valentina giacinti delantera atacante del milan

La cantera del Madrid CFF es bastante buena para lo que es hoy en día una cantera española de fútbol femenino. Las chicas son punteras en categorías inferiores, pero al llegar a la Liga Iberdrola se quedan muy cortas, y los fichajes de refuerzo dejan mucho que desear, porque el club no puede traer más que a los descartes de otros equipos o a extranjeras realmente penosas.jaizkibel escribió:La viabilidad del Madrid CFF la veo muy complicada, pero me daría pena que desapareciese, especialmente por la cantera, como dices tú. La tienen muy buena. No sé si en esa hipótesis existiría la posibilidad de integrar esa cantera (que son muchas horas de trabajo, la ilusión de muchas chicas, etc.) como cantera o secciones inferiores del Madrid femenino.Apostata escribió:Hombre, el principal problema de Alfredo Ulloa para profesionalizar a su equipo se llama Paola Ulloa.
Este señor tiene un mérito tremendo, porque se sacó de la nada un Club de Fútbol femenino con unas estructuras de cantera admirables, mejores que las del Tacón, y que con eso y muy pocos medios, ha terminado llegando a primera y resistiendo en ella.
Pero claro, el problema es que el equipo lo hizo para que jugara su hija, y la hija son dos guantes pinchaos en un florero. Que es que aunque la den un balonazo, se meten p'adentro el balón y la portera.
Todas... fichables si hay interés en ficharlas.Centraltotal escribió:Hace falta defensas como el comer
Se ha reforzado mucho el centro del campo.
Se ha reforzado la portería que ya está completa.
Se ha traído una delantera, porque Asllani es más mediapunta casi o segunda delantera.
Aún así hace falta una goleadora.
Donde más flojo estamos en en defensa, centrales y laterales.
Ahí el equipo está muy flojeras.
Ha salido que se ha negado a irse de su equipo y ha rechazado la oferta. No sé si será verdad.j30madr escribió:rumor de otro fichaje
valentina giacinti delantera atacante del milanestuvo en el mundial y fue mvp contra china en octavos
Yo intento hacerme el contemporáneo y el aliado feminista, así como que no me doy cuenta de lo que estoy viendo y que lo importante es el desempeño profesional y la calidad humana. Lo juro que lo intento, pero es queee...jaizkibel escribió:
Todas... fichables si hay interés en ficharlas.
Una central, Abby Dahlkemper (USA), un auténtico muro.
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Es off topic, pero por comentar algo en plan cotilleo.ZEROCERISMOCERO escribió:La que es muy madridista es la australiana Samantha Kerr, Ojo...
No, apostata, joé, es cierto. Hay jugadoras que son muy guapas. Y las que he puesto que son "fichables" y que podrían venir, son de nivel muy alto. Como jugadoras de fútbol, son de lo mejor que hay, pero es que además son para mirarlas. Por cierto, esta Abby Dahlkemper que parece que te llama la atención... bingo, es de las pocas que no son lesbianas, así que tienes futuro.Apostata escribió:Yo intento hacerme el contemporáneo y el aliado feminista, así como que no me doy cuenta de lo que estoy viendo y que lo importante es el desempeño profesional y la calidad humana. Lo juro que lo intento, pero es queee...jaizkibel escribió:
Todas... fichables si hay interés en ficharlas.
Una central, Abby Dahlkemper (USA), un auténtico muro.
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Creo que con mi edad y con la suya, la relación más conveniente entre ambos sería la adopción.jaizkibel escribió:No, apostata, joé, es cierto. Hay jugadoras que son muy guapas. Y las que he puesto que son "fichables" y que podrían venir, son de nivel muy alto. Como jugadoras de fútbol, son de lo mejor que hay, pero es que además son para mirarlas. Por cierto, esta Abby Dahlkemper que parece que te llama la atención... bingo, es de las pocas que no son lesbianas, así que tienes futuro.Apostata escribió:Yo intento hacerme el contemporáneo y el aliado feminista, así como que no me doy cuenta de lo que estoy viendo y que lo importante es el desempeño profesional y la calidad humana. Lo juro que lo intento, pero es queee...jaizkibel escribió:
Todas... fichables si hay interés en ficharlas.
Una central, Abby Dahlkemper (USA), un auténtico muro.
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Y la O'Hara será lesbiana y lo que le dé la gana, pero es otro bombón.
Hay una cosa, apostata. El (buen) gusto no tiene edades.Apostata escribió:
Creo que con mi edad y con la suya, la relación más conveniente entre ambos sería la adopción.
Que desperdicio,jaizkibel escribió:Es off topic, pero por comentar algo en plan cotilleo.ZEROCERISMOCERO escribió:La que es muy madridista es la australiana Samantha Kerr, Ojo...
En la selección australiana de fútbol (Kerr es australiana, aunque juega en un equipo USA) han tenido un tremendo follón. Despidieron al entrenador de la selección y una de las jugadoras hizo unas declaraciones en el sentido de que el entrenador había sido despedido por las presiones de lo que la jugadora llamó "la mafia lésbica" del equipo nacional (ya hemos comentado que en el fútbol femenino, en el deporte femenino en general, la presencia de deportistas gays es muy alta), refiriéndose a jugadoras gays de la selección australiana que, parece, tenían algún tipo de conflicto con el entrenador. Samantha Kerr salió en defensa de su compañera que hizo esas declaraciones y como resultado han tenido una marejada importante en el equipo australiano por eso del "me caes mal y no te aguanto", "no soporto lo que dijiste", "eso de llamarnos mafia no te lo perdono", "tú de qué vas" ...
Y, ojo, que Samantha Kerr también es lesbiana. Su pareja es Nikki Stanton, jugadora también de fútbol USA.
Esta foto, del pasado Mundial, por ejemplo, de Kelley O'Hara, una de las jugadoras que he comentado que sería un gran fichaje:
En fin, anécdotas curiosas.
Como jugadora sí es cierto que es una goleadora y de las top. En mi opinión, sí es cierto que necesitamos un 9, pero me parece más sencillo lo de Blackstenius, que juega en un equipo de la Liga sueca, que lo de Kerr, que juega en un equipo USA y tiene contrato en vigor.
Hay una cosa que sí ha pasado o está pasando. El reciente Campeonato del Mundo de fútbol femenino ha sido algo así como un escaparate de la homosexualidad femenina y esto no ha pasado desapercibido a nadie. Ahora mismo, si buscas en google, te salen montones de artículos analizando la explosión de la homosexualidad femenina en el fútbol a raíz del pasado Mundial. E intentando analizar el por qué, incluso comparándolo con lo que ocurre en el fútbol masculino.Apostata escribió:
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Why are more female professional footballers openly gay or bisexual than male players?
The most prominent Women's World Cup ever has come to a close with another USA victory. Not only did the tournament throw a spotlight on how different the women's game is from the men's, it highlighted how different the teams are as well. Across the whole tournament, there were at least 41 female players or coaches who are openly gay or bisexual. During the male tournament in 2018, there were none.
Similarly in the Premier League, there is not one single player who is openly gay or bisexual. At least five members of the Lionesses are gay or bisexual, compared with none of England's male players.
In a society where gay marriages can take place, and same-sex couples enjoy the same legal privileges as their heterosexual counterparts, the make-up of both football teams is at odds with British society as a whole.
According to the Office for National Statistics, in 2017, around two per cent of the population identified as lesbian, gay or bisexual. It is not that male football only attracts heterosexual males, or women's football a high ratio of lesbian or bisexual players, but largely due to the differing atmospheres surrounding the two games. "The women's game has a more open-atmosphere at matches, it's more family-orientated," explains Eric Najib, a former player and now manager for Stonewall FC, the world's most successful LGBT+ football club. While in men's football, he believes there's still "there's still tribalism attached".
Joe White, a co-founder of Three Lions Pride, an LGBT+ England supporters group, agrees, saying: "In the women's game, there's more diversity in the fans, less 'laddish banter'. "It's more welcoming, more diverse and open, and this atmosphere is reflected on the pitch as well." Conversely "in the men's game there's more racism, sexism and homophobia", he adds.
Dr Stefan Lawrence, an expert in masculinity in sport and senior lecturer at Newman University in Birmingham, agrees that women's football has a "different culture" to men's. "It's more inclusive and accepting, you don't see the division between opposing fans," he explains, adding that the inclusivity has created "better levels of tolerance within the culture of the women's game". Lawrence continues that while the women's game has evolved to be more inclusive, the male game "evolved differently" and is still influenced by "traditional views", and as a result "the fans within men's football play a part in preventing male players sticking their heads above the parapet".
The fact that there were 41 players or coaches at the Women's World Cup who were openly gay or bisexual means that being so in the female game is more of a norm. Whereas in the upper levels of the male game there are none. "In women's football, there were barriers, but these have been broken down by trailblazers and this has opened the floodgates," explains Lawrence. "The men's game needs this." "People are waiting for an elite male player to come out," adds Di Cunningham, another co-founder of Three Lions Pride.
But this just increases the pressure that the first male player to announce that he is gay or bisexual, will come under, she adds. "It's such a big deal for one footballer to come out, that a few need to do it at once to take the pressure off," believes Dr Rachael Bullingham, a senior lecturer at the University of Worcester who specialises in homophobia in women's sport. "To be the only one who did it, there would be so much emphasis on them," she explains, that this fear of the scrutiny and pressure they would come under is likely deterring players from speaking out. Bullingham believes it may be easier for female players to come out because the female game gets "much less coverage and attention" than the men's and there isn't "the media spotlight that there is in male sport".
The way in which male and female players are developed is also believed to be a factor in why female players being gay or bisexual is more the norm than male ones. Many elite male players have come through football academies where they have been since a young age. Because of this, football is a huge part of their lives and there is less distinction between their private lives and their hoped-for career of football, believes White. It is a belief that is backed by Lawrence. "It's not because gay men aren't interested in becoming professional footballers," he explains, but because academies are "heteronormative" (where being heterosexual is the norm) environments. Players are here from a young ages, he explains, and if at the same time as competing in a high-pressure environment - in the UK there are around 12,000 boys in football academies, a vastly larger number than the positions available at top-flight clubs - they are struggling with their sexuality, it is easy for their focus to slip, resulting in their football suffering, and them ultimately not gaining one of the small number of coveted positions.
Cunningham agrees: "People are better at what they do if they are out, as opposed to those who are spending their time and energy hiding it, allowing them to give their full attention to what they do." This is not to say academies are not giving help and support to those in them, they offer LGBT and relationship education to those passing through their doors.
Meanwhile for in the women's game, players have often had to work part-time to be able to make ends meet while playing football. "They've not always had the funding, and often football isn't the only thing they do, so they bring their private lives with them" when they become professional, explains White. As such, female players' lives are often less-dominated by football and they may come to the professional game at a later stage of their lives than male players who come through academies, meaning they may have come out well before turning professional. White's Three Lions co-founder, Cunningham, agrees with him, adding that societal interest in male players confounds this. "Women's football hasn't been a mass spectator sport until recently," she says. "There is less pressure from the public on social media, allowing them to get on with their lives, whereas in the Premier League, players are under the spotlight in all aspects of their lives."
While the male game is "heteronormative", according to Lawrence, the female game is the opposite and "homonormative", he says, meaning that players who are lesbian or bisexual do not hide their sexualities as they feel that being homosexual is "much more accepted". And until the "heteronormative" atmosphere in men's football is broken, by players coming out, it will continue to self-perpetuate. Football is a very male- dominated industry, and to take part and succeed in the field requires female players to break down traditional feminine stereotypes. To succeed in football, players need to be athletic and competitive, two character traits which are not traditionally feminine.
Women in sport "have already overcome obstacles", says Najib. "They may have developed a thick-skin breaking down the barriers they already have," meaning coming out is one more in a series of hurdles for them to overcome.
Rory Magrath, a senior lecturer at Solent University who specialises in homophobia and masculinity agrees that female footballers may just see it as yet another barrier they must break down in order to succeed.
Another reason why players may not want to come out is that those at the top of their game will travel around the world. The next men's World Cup is in Qatar in 2022, a country in which being homosexual is punishable by up to seven years in prison. "Homophobia in football is declining, but in some countries it is still illegal," notes Bullingham. "Why would a male player come out when the next men's World Cup is in Qatar, and the last one was in Russia?" she asks. Players may be fearful about travelling to such countries if they are gay or bisexual, and she adds that their partners might also worry about going to such countries to support them.
All of those interviewed - those who play football, manage teams, take part in supporters' groups, or conduct academic research on the game - said that the sport's governing bodies in the UK are working hard to make football more inclusive. "The FA is working very hard, progress is being made... but male football still has some way to go... the problem has not been eradicated, but it is improving," said Najib. In a statement, The FA said: "Coming out, irrespective of gender, is an individual and personal decision. "Having a support network and allies, whether that’s teammates, friends or family, can be crucial in this process”. "The FA is committed to tackling homophobia, biphobia and transphobia in football at every level of the game”. "We will continue to work with partners across the game, such as Stonewall and LBGT fan groups, to encourage fans and players to report abuse, both at a national and county FA level, and work with the leagues, campaign groups and the statutory agencies to sanction and educate perpetrators."
The FA took part in Saturday's Pride march in London "as part of ongoing efforts in reaching out to the LGBT community to get involved in the game".
All of those interviewed also agreed that the main factor about why so few male players are openly gay or bisexual is the atmosphere surrounding the game which stems from the stigma historically attached to homosexuality.
While the 1967 Sexual Offences Act decriminalised "homosexual acts" between males aged 21 and over in England and Wales and was the first step on a path towards the ongoing goal of equality, it did not wipe away prejudices overnight, nor did it mean equality, for example it barred two gay men from having sex in a hotel.
However, in the UK, it has never been illegal to be a lesbian.
Educating people is the best way to change perceptions, Najib believes, and this is not just confined to football.
"Anything which can be done to promote equality should be done in all areas of life, not just sport," he adds.
White also believes current players need to use their "influence" to be an ally of the LGBT community.
"Being an ally is so important, you don't have to be BAME [black or minority ethnic] to challenge racism," he adds, so neither do you have to be LGBT to support those who are.
Given time, attitudes and atmospheres around LGBT players will change and "we will see young male players confident about their sexual orientation," says Cunningham.
"We need to keep calm about male players, things are changing," she adds.
Ending with a final prediction that for once the game of male football will "follow women's example".
Hombre, supongo que el fútbol, como probablemente ahora mismo el mayor espectáculo del mundo, tiene repercusiones globales y se colocan los focos más allá de lo que ocurre en los 90 minutos que dura un partido.marcoasensio escribió:Que el 10% de la poblacion sea homosexual no significa que el 10% de la gente en vuestra oficina lo sea, ni en primera division. Eso es de primero de probabilidad.
Es como si te dicen que 2 de cada 5 escaladores del Annapurna la palman, y te vas con 4 amigos, y estas convencido que te vas a quedar sin 2 colegas para la vuelta.
Y la verdad no se porque a algunos les interesa o incluso afecta personalmente que alguien sea homosexual, famosos o no.
Si pero que tiene que haber muy muy pocos y ya no te digo los que lleguen a profesionales.Apostata escribió:Hombre, Marcoasensio, llama la atención que en un deporte que practican profesionalmente decenas de miles de chicos jóvenes entre 18 y 35 años, no haya ni uno solo cuya homosexualidad transcienda públicamente. Ya no porque tengamos que estar pendientes de lo que hace cada uno, sino porque, coño, que la mayoría te retransmiten su vida por las redes y no hay uno solo que se case con otro hombre, o que suba una foto paseándose con su novio.
Es raro, muy raro y no pasa en ningún otro colectivo fuera del deporte. En la música, el cine, la literatura, la política, la ciencia, el periodismo... en todos los sectores que sufren cierta exposición pública, hay homosexuales visibles que muestran sus relqciones con toda naturalidad. Aquí sólo conocemos a la Pilar Rubio o la modelo de turno. A esas sí, a esas nos las meten hasta en la sopa. Pero los futbolistas homosexuales siguen metiditos en el armario y bien acojonados.
Ya, y tienes razón de que es un poco hablar por hablar, mientras esperamos más fichajes del Tacón.marcoasensio escribió:No me puede interesar menos lo que hagan en su tiempo libre los famosos, y los futbolistas son de los peores en eso que la mayoria son unos catetos de cuidado