Did the likes of Henry, Villa, Xavi, Puyol, Alves, Pedro play for Barca 2016-17 side or Iniesta still being in his prime? For anyone who actually followed Barca last season, Baca were actually the "worse side in decade" but Messi was the sole difference for not having a 2007-08 esque season...LB17-18 escribió:Worse Barca side with players like Henry, Villa, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Puyol, Piqué, Alves, Pedro... tough one to digest, IMHO.Varnagel escribió:Winning titles is down to team achivements that doesn't affect on a player's ability.LB17-18 escribió:It remains to be seen.Varnagel escribió:Cristiano is a great player, one of the best player to kick a ball. I'm glad that he's a RM player
But Messi is the absolute best footballer in football history.
He could score 4 goals in all competitions and still be recognized as a brilliant player, can't say the same for CR7.
It's the media backing alongside with Ronaldo fanboys, Portugueses, United-fans & Madridistas who only suggest that Cristiano is GOAT instead of Messi.
The ultimate objective for clubs is to win titles, and the same can be said about players, at least at this elite level. If Cristiano keeps winning huge titles with him as the flagship player, you can bet there should be at least some room for discussion.
Winning once or twice some people call it lucky, but when it's tens and even more titles, you have got to ask yourself who the better player really is.
IMO, Messi was clearly the better player than Cristiano on a individual level throughout 2016-17 season.
Messi (with few exceptions) carried the team consistently in the worse Barca side for literary over a decade.
He was the reason why Real Madrid didn't became league winners until Matchday 38.
But since Real Madrid won Liga + UCL, he's the favorite for winning, CR7 is now the favorite for Ballon d'Or.
When both teams have pretty much the same potential, you can't deny there has got to be a deciding factor among these players, after all they are the so called franchise players. It's in their salary and their status, and that comes with certain responsibilities, one of which, it's precisely to win titles.
Anyway... I really don't understand why people still pretend that there's some kind of a nonsense about "Messi and Cristaino Ronaldo" are best ever talk when the Portuguese is flat-out a incredible goalscorer compared to GOAT. Simply a modern version of Gerd Muller who's became bigger than he actually is thanks to social media.